Hardwired pucks

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Brian Wuttke

• November 19, 2020 18:05

I am currently in the middle of a major reno on my house.  I already have 16 flair vents and 6 pucks installed.  I am also adding many more vents and pucks in this reno.  I am hardwiring all the vents.

 

The question is:

I know the pucks don't have a hardwired connection like the vents.  They are battery or USB only.

Will there be a future model that might have a hardwired connection? I can prewire for a future model

I know that you make a USB mount but I don't feels it'll look the best for my application.

 

My thought is I'll prewire (18/2 LVT) to each puck location for future hardwired control.  Possibly I could splice the USB cable to the 18/2 if need be.  My electrical inspector probably wouldn't like this.

 

By the way, I am an electrical contractor and of course will be doing all my own wiring.

 

Look forward to advise from Flair.  Also, if Flair wants to email or message me directly with a NDA and info on future products that'd be great as well!

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  Chrissie

  • November 19, 2020 22:22

  Just saw this one, wouldn't have recommended the USB adapter had I seen this first!  Let me ask the team and come back with some ideas.  I assume this is all rough in stage so no drywall is on yet right?

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  Brian Wuttke

  • November 19, 2020 22:24
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  Yes rough in stage.  No drywall up yet

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  Ben Jacobson

  • July 29, 2021 03:15

  What did you end up doing I think I will have the same issue.

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  Chris Knabenshue

  • February 23, 2022 07:01

  Also curious on solution for this?  I was hoping to hardwire them directly - I didn't realize there isn't an option to do this directly.

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  Brian Wuttke

  • February 23, 2022 21:58

  I ended up hardwiring all my pucks. 

  Ended up purchasing these (the 2pin micro-male version):

  1pcs/5pcs Micro USB 2.0 A Female Jack Android Interface 4 Pin 2 Pin Male Female Power Data Charge Cable Cord Connector 30CM|Connectors| - AliExpress

  And this (3-12v 5A US version):

  Adjustable 3V 5V 6V 9V 12V 15V 18V 24V 1A 2A 3A 5A Universal AC/DC Adapter Display Screen Voltage Regulated Power Supply Adatpor|AC/DC Adapters| - AliExpress

   

  I wired in all the wires at rough wire stage of my house reno.  I ran an independent 18/2 LVT wire to each thermostat location.  I have 16 locations in total throughout my whole house.  Honestly I could have daisy chained the wiring and shared multiple pucks on a single wire feed.  But I didn't want to risk any voltage drop or other issues with multiple pucks on one wire.  So far (6 months in) absolutely no issues.

  I hopefully will get a chance to do a full forum post with pictures and all the details of the whole house Flair install (hardwired all the vents as well).  Just been slammed busy since the end of the reno.  

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  Chris Knabenshue

  • February 23, 2022 22:50

  thanks so much!  Was there a different wire you needed for the vents? I thought a wire came with those?

  For the Pucks - what did you need this for: (3-12v 5A US version)?

  Wouldn't an electrician be able to take the other cable and tie that into power?

   

  Thanks so much!

  Chris

   

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  Brian Wuttke

  • February 25, 2022 20:06
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  Chris,

   

  The vents come with batteries.  They also have a hardwired terminal spot for a low voltage cable (no cable included).  

  For both vents and pucks I set up an electrical receptacle (standard plug) in my mechanical room.  I installed two separate devices: transformer (AC to AC) for vents, and driver (AC to DC) for pucks.  Both of these have cords that plug into the receptacle.  From the driver and transformer I ran independent 18/2 LVT wires to each puck and each vent.

   

  For the pucks the 2pin micro-male usb connector plugs into the pucks and then I spliced them to the 18/2 LVT in the wall.  

  1pcs/5pcs Micro USB 2.0 A Female Jack Android Interface 4 Pin 2 Pin Male Female Power Data Charge Cable Cord Connector 30CM|Connectors| - AliExpress

   

  I used this to power the vents ALTV248CB

  Altronix Products

   

  Hope this helps.

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  Chris Knabenshue

  • March 14, 2022 06:49
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  I was looking to buy the cables from Alibaba but they wouldn't arrive til May (hoping to buy the Pucks and install them within April).

   

  I am wondering if this would work as a sing piece instead of buying the two suggested pieces?

   

  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09DGFR24W/ref=sspa_dk_hqp_detail_aax_0?spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzOTg3SEUyTTVWTDZZJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMTI3NjQyMTFGQjdFMUxKNzk1RyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzk0OTAzMkM5T0FPRk9CRDhPNiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2hxcF9zaGFyZWQmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl&th=1

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  Chris Knabenshue

  • April 11, 2022 06:12

  I do have my pucks and vents on backorder.  I was able to buy (and get) the suggested parts from Alibaba to hardwire the pucks (thanks Brian!).

  My question is the hardwiring of the vents.

   

  The suggestion of this: 

  Altronix Products

  Seems like it would be multiple vents?  One of my Vents is above a wall outlet, my hope was to have my electrician tie in the electric for the vent to the outlet.  Is this something that would be possible?  If so, what cable would be needed for that?

  Many thanks for any help/insight!  

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  Brian Wuttke

  • April 11, 2022 14:50

  Chris Knabenshue

  Correct the Altronix is for multiple vents.  I believe I have 16 vents powered off the one Altronix unit

  For powering the vent off the wall outlet the easiest way is to do a plug-in transformer.  Similar to how alarm companies do.

  Example: Amazon.com : 24vac plug in transformer

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