configuring 3 zones temp control
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Hello,
I have divided my home in 3 zones but I am not able to control the temperature correctly.
Zone 1 - Living room - Nest Thermostat + no puck + 4 flair vents
Zone 2 - Basement - Gateway Puck + Flair vents
Zone 3 - Upstairs - Puck - no vents
I want to control the temp of the 3 zones independently but it's not working.
CASE 1 When I set the SETPOINT CONTROLLER to Thermostat:
I set puck set temp to hold for Basement and upstairs and thermostat temp for living room
Living room controlled by thermostat temp is ok but the other zones are not controlled well (i.e. if upstairs I need more cooling but Living room is ok the thermostat is switching off the a/c and therefore even if the vents are closed there is no air moving)
CASE 2 I tried changing the SETPOINT CONTROLLER to Flair app
I set puck set temps to hold for Basement and upstairs and living room temp hold on flair app. House setpoint is set very low, lower than any setpoints
in this case, even if the app is controlling the thermostat setpoint, the app is not turning on the a/c (lowering the thermostat setpoint) even if the temp upstairs is 5 F above setpoint (for cooling)
i.e. Basement 69 F Set point 74 F, Living room 78 F set point 78F, upstairs 80F set point 75 F , HOME setpoint 72F
Why is not switching on the a/c ? What is happening when I change set temp on the thermostat ? Can the Nest replace the puck as advertised?
In all situation the flair vents were working ok when needed.
Please help.
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Do you have all your Pucks set as gateways and within reasonable distance of the vents? Id guess that you need a Puck on the main floor to have good radio reception on that floor.
Case #2 is definitely preferred, for the reasons you pointed out in Case #1.
First, check that all pucks and vents are online. (An easy check is to go to "Home Stats" and look for a trend line on each Puck and Vent. If there's times with any device missing, it's not close enough to a gateway.
Next, check the Home Settings:
- System Settings > Set Point > FLAIR APP
- System Settings > Home/Away Mode > Manual
- System Settings > Set Point for Home > (you pick!)
- Away Settings > Away Mode > Smart Away (and set the Away Temps)
- Integrations > Nest > Associated Thermostats > (Select yours)
- Thermostats > Nest > Disable Thermostat > Unchecked
- Thermostats > Nest > Thermostat Location > Main Floor (or whatever you are calling Zone 2)
- Thermostats > Nest > Vents > Set the qty of vents
Now, navigate back to the Home screen and select a room.
- Go into each Room Settings screen, and verify that they all share a 'Zone' called 'Nest'
- Assign the vents to their respective rooms (which you called Zones 1 through 3)
- Make sure that the 'Nest' is selected as a device in Zone 2
- Make sure that the Pucks are assigned to their Zones 1 and 3
Also, turn off any 'smart learning' or 'auto away' or other features of the nest that might conflict with Flair.
Once all that is done, you should be ready to set your schedule. Even without a schedule, you should be able to use the Flair mobile or PC interface to change the 'Room Setpoint' for each of your three areas.
Don't adjust at the Nest itself. Instead only use the Pucks and you mobile/web interface for Flair
I have a feeling the primary issue is just a loss of communications (radio) between your devices. Converting 'sensors' to 'gateways' will help. And additional gateways may also be needed.
P.S., I'm using the above with an Ecobee and it's working well. I'd assume it's similar for Nest!
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FYI - the temps you gave sound like Flair did it's job fine ...
Basement: 69F, SP: 74F
Living room: 78F, SP: 78F
Upstairs: 80F, SP: 75F
HOME setpoint 72FIf 'Home Setpoint' is the setpoint that you see on the Nest, then all is well and it should be cooling. If you manually adjusted the Nest to 78F, then you overwrote what the Flair app wants to send it. Don't do that. Let the Nest get its input (72F) from the Flair app only. Manually setting the Nest to 72F should get it cooling again, right? Once it gets the other rooms closer to the desired temps, it'll bring the Nest back to 78-ish.
If the Nest has a 72F Hold, and reads 78F currently and the A/C isn't running, there must be a setting preventing it from running. Do you have Nest Remote Sensors that it relies on? Or is there a max runtime set on the Nest somewhere?
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