Carrier Infinity Integration
Carrier has an Infinity Open API for their newer Infinity thermostats. https://openapi.ing.carrier.com/docs#
Has Flair looked at doing a Carrier Infinity Integration?
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Hi All,
First, anyone who signed up for the NDA, we're waiting for our Engineering team to approve the request, and thank you for your understanding.
Anyone who still wants to sign up for the Carrier beta can write in to support and request access here: flair.co/contact
We've had some questions about phase two of Carrier integration, we are actively engaged with Carrier/Bryant on this however we need some changes on their end before we can push anything.
All the best,
Finn
Flair Technical Support
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Hi Ben Jacobson,
The Carrier integration is complete on the Flair side. We are currently working with Carrier on an outstanding issue on their end. We anticipate a fix to be rolled out in the next few months. Feel free to write in for an update - support@flair.co - in November and we can share the latest updates on this.
Regards,
The Flair Team
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Hello. I am building a new house. I am thinking if the flair integration with carrier infinity can close off more than 1/3 of the vents in the house due to the variable speed going down to 25%, this would be the way to go over a zoned system to have true temperature control in every room. Can you please let me know if the integration adjusts the speed and if it allows more than 1/3 of the flair vents to shut?
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Nick D I have hardwired my vents and use the infinity system. As its variable speed I have no issues. In order to get passed the 1/3 being forced open just set the amount of vents you have to just less then 3x of what you actually have any you can allow all vents except for 1 to close. Keep in mind on a full powered system this would probably cause a massive issue but, on the carrier system I havent had an issue.
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Ben - thanks so much for your response! Very easy and smart workaround on the 1/3 issue!
With that being said, does flair tell infinity to go down to 25% (or whatever necessary speed), or will infinity notice that most of the temps in the house are close to the set point and dial down the speed on its own?
Also, when you say you have yours hardwired, does that just provide you the convenience of not having to replace batteries, or are there some additional integrations and settings available that way?
Thank you!!
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@nick hardwire just removes the need for a battery but, as you are investing in very expensive system you do not want to be walking around changing batteries also if a vent goes offline you can simply unplug the power and it comes back up without having to climb and unscrew. I tried the temp control integration and was not happy with it so I set every room to what I want and then kept playing with the carrier main temp. Seems 71 is the magic number and with the living room forcing air to bedroom at night and vice versa during the day we are hitting the requested temp. No way to control % on carrier it does automatically based on how many degrees you are away from desired temp.
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That all makes sense! Thank you!
Couple more questions: do you see the need to pay for zoning if I am going to do flair vents throughout the house? It is a 3 story home. Seems to me like it would be an unnecessary additional expense.
Also, how are you tracking temps in the rooms? Did you pay to get additional infinity sensors, or are you using flair pucks in any room you want to control the temp?
Thank you!!
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Im using mine in a condo. I would imagine a 3 story home should zone each floor and then use flair to control each room but, im a hobbyist not a pro. Every room for me has a puck which I also hardwired into an outlet. If you dont do each room it will be much less effective. For the larger rooms where zi have multiple events it only needs 1 puck as all of the vents are connected to it.
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Okay, thanks! I’ll get my HVAC guy’s opinion as well, but I guess I figured if all flair vents shut off in the basement because it is cold, what is the point of having a zone shut off as well? But perhaps the zoning would communicate to the infinity system unlike flair to tell it 1/3 of the vents are closed and it needs to dial back the power.
Aside from that, would you recommend the carrier infinity system? Read a lot of comments about, they will break and HVAC techs won’t know what they are doing, parts will be expensive and take weeks to get in, etc., etc.
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Full house needs a lot more power then a condo so your splitting into 3 AC systems with zones and then directing with flair. Zones seal much better and are more efficent. Flair is the hack which works great. I put mine in 6 months ago. Electrical cost cut in half, its so quite I dont know its on and all of the rooms are now comfortable for me it was a game changer and worth every penny. I also put in the infinity air filter.
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I had the flair integration to our infinity system off all winter and decided to re-enable it earlier this spring (late march). Since I've turned it on, we've had 4 instances where the thermostat goes black and the whole system just shuts down. No breakers are thrown and we've checked for loose coms wires (both myself and HVAC company) and can't trace anything down to system errors. It has been incredibly weird, a power cycle on the breakers brings everything back up but I thought I would check to see if anyone on here has seen anything similar.
I recently added the bridge which has definitely been nice to increase the signal reach and I could convert two pucks back to their basic use. So far, it has been working well, except for the random shut downs.
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